Last name: Romney

This interesting surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is lcoational from a place so called in Kent, which was originally the name of a river. The first element seems to be derived from the Old English pre 7th Century "rum", spacious, but its formation and meaning are obscure. The second element is derived from the Old English "ea", river. The placename was first recorded as "Rumenea" in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles of Essex in 1052. A derivative of Romney is found recorded as "Ruminingseta" in the Saxon Charters of 697, and means "the fold of the Romney people". Locational surnames were developed when former inhabitants of a place moved to another area, usually to seek work, and were best identified by the name of their birthplace. The modern surname can be found as Romney and Rumney. An early emigrant to America was one Thomas Romney, aged nineteen years, who set sail from London on the "Speedwell", bound for "Virginea" in May 1635. The christening was recorded in Kent of Daniell, son of Richard Romney, on December 8th 1594 at Davington. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Robert de Romenel, which was dated 1086, The Domesday Book of Kent, during the reign of King William 1, "The Conqueror", 1066 - 1087. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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Mike Craig
Prasaad-it is clearly you that is making things up then trying to hammer home your lie! Kent was NEVER part of the Danelaw!! The Danelaw started North of London and ran in a diagonal line to just south of Liverpool. Encompassing all of the kingdom of East Anglia, half of the kingdom of Mercia (when England was united as one they became Earldoms) and everything north of those places. You are also incorrect about the origins of the names Kent and bury, niether of which are Norse in origin! The "cant" part of the towns name is ancient British (the ancient Britons are a Celtic people) and was given by the Romans, named for the tribe who lived there, the Cantii. Also the "bury" part of the towns name is wholly Anglo Saxon and stems from the Old English (the language spoken by the Anglo Saxons) 'burh' ( also the origin of the word borough), which was a defensive structure of tall earthen ramparts with a palisade of wood built atop (see the Dorset town of Wareham where the bank still exists to its original height). These were devised by King Alfred the Great to defend towns from Viking attacks, the only link between that word and the Danes. The only thing you got right was about the Jutes, who were the other Germanic tribe who came with the Angles and Saxons, however they were much smaller in number which led to those in Kent (this word has the same origins as 'cant', from the Britons via the Romans) being absorbed by the Angles and Saxons, those who settled on the Isle of Wight (named after the Jutish king Whitgar) were ethnically cleansed by the Saxon Kingdom of Wessex. I have studied this subject for twenty years and have a degree in Dark Age Europe, believe me I know what im talking about! Also the name Romney is mentioned in the Domesday book and IS English in origin but iv typed too much to go into detail on that too! All of the above is in the public domain and readily available which makes me wonder why you did not research your answer before looking foolish?

Mari Tsigianis
Yeah, like anyone connected to Romney would admit to "Romany" or "Romani" roots. Prasaad. Romney is a liar and an actor who will do and say anything to get elected as President of the United States. Being part Roma myself, I see how people react when they find out a person is Roma. All of a sudden the "hide your wallet" jokes come out. Maybe the name is Roma, maybe it isn't - but nothing changes my bad opinion of the man. Just sayin'.

Carl
Please, Prasaad, settle things by reasoning, not outright hate. Nobody is against you. Just misinformed probably, and you seem to know what you're talking about. People don't need to see angry arguments when looking for their family origins.

prasad kumarya
Again, just because words sound similar does not confirm a specific pathway of usage and development - etymology. We all know about Rumspringa - which is Schwabian German, and has nothing to do with this topic. William R. Shepherd, for one, published way back in 1923 a map of Britain in 600 a.d. -showing the area now known as Kent under the control of the Jutes(as in Jutland, the Danish mainland), many of whose place names remain in place. Canterbury, for instance, in Saxon heartland, is a Norse term - 'bury' being the red flag for Danelaw placenames. Jersey, Guernsey, and many other islands where the Danes set up camp during their invasion carry the typical 'ey' ending for 'island.' The thread is about the origin of the Romney surname, which has no Saxon antecedents as a surname, but does have a typical antecedent in Danelaw place names. When peasants began to use surnames, it was common to be name after your family's homestead place. AS for 'ea' as a Saxon river term, there are almost no examples for this in the Kentish landscape, or even the English landscape. Romney is a Jute place name, not Saxon. He's not Anglo-Saxon after all.

AJL
Remind me of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa Rumspringa, "running around" in Pennsylvania Dutch or, more accurately, Pennsylvania German (as the term "Dutch" used in this context is a variant of the original word deutsch: German) is a noun closely related to the Standard German verb herumspringen meaning "to jump or hop around or about". The Standard German term is a portmanteau of the adverb herum (literally: here (her) about (um)) which means "around" or "around here" and the verb springen which means "to jump" or "to skip". However, in Swiss German as in some other German dialects, springen does 14 besides meaning "to jump" 14 also mean "to run". In modern Standard German "to skip" ordinarily would be translated with the verb hüpfen, which literally means "to hop". This term/concept also is used as a separable prefix verb, i.e., rumspringen/er springt rum.

Prasad Kumarya
Ciaran, you are making things up. Romney has nothing to do with the Roma. Many words sound similar in some ways, but that does not mean they have an etymological relationship. These things are responsibly investigated by linguists who use written documents to trace words through history, including surnames. You are just pulling conjectures out of your rear-end. You have no idea the depth of information gathered by the many researchers who have actually done the work of investigation and not just thrown wild guesses and silly ideas out there as if it is information. Some people like to pretend that everything in the world is as muddy as their minds are.

Ciaran Pollen
'Gypsies' are also called Travelers today. 'roaming' and 'room' have similar roots so the 'Ruminingseta' sounds to me like a site where the Travellers stayed,a 'fold' is an enclosed field where one could keep sheep or horses, which were essential to 'Travellers'. So what I am saying is the name Romney may be a 'gypsy' name and neither Anglo Saxon or Norman.

Ciaran Pollen
William the Conqueror was England's first Norman king. Back in them days folks didn't live in nation states, life was more tribal and people identified themselves along ethnic lines. people still travelled much and names of places reflect that every where in Europe. Normans as well as Angles and Saxons occupied England often with rivalries and hostilities until William the Conqueror the Norman beat Anglo-saxon king Harold (Battle of Hastings 1066) and became King. Don't forget that the Romans had occupied Britain centuries earlier, so those Europeans were getting around even then, though slower without the TGV bullet trains.The United Kingdom evolved over the next several centuries. the Normans were descendants of the Norse men, the Vikings who left the Scandinavian lands and settled in the warmer parts of northern Europe and British isles. Romany is a word referring to the Gypsies, which word comes from 'Egypt'. The 'Romany' people were nomadic (possibly from India, but likely from diverse origins) and possibly called 'Romany' because of there appearance resembling Romans, Black hair, brown eyes, olive complexion in contrast to blonde red and brown haired, north euros. All european languages evolved from the same caucasian indian languages ( see Proto-Indo-European roots, in the American Heritage dictionary ) so there may be some connection there too if you go deep enough.

Prasaad Kumarya
WRONG! Romney comes from DANISH, from the Danelaw, which held Kent early-on. Place names ending in "ey" are from the Viking term for "island." Also, the Old English root "rum," which became 'room,' is from Old Norse term for 'open.' The location is a grassy island in a river in Kent, hence the name. The history of the location is that is was so named by the Danes. The name and term were absorbed into Old English with many, many other Norse words, which we still use today. Romney is a Norse name, not English, and was not among the Angles or Saxons who settled England.